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Trials of the Fatherless, Triumphs of the Spirit

• Zachery Williams • Season 3 • Episode 3

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Imagine facing the world with no father figure at your side, the cold bite of homelessness nipping at your heels, and the weight of a mother's wellbeing resting squarely on young shoulders. That's the stark reality Brandon from Detroit bravely unpacks in our latest episode, as he recounts the hurdles he overcame and how the absence of his father inadvertently forged his tenacious spirit. We journey together through his childhood memories, the refuge he found in sports and music, and his old soul, a gift from the older generation who stepped in where his father stepped out. Brandon's story is a testament to the resilience born from loss and the power of self-discovery in the face of adversity.

In a world where authenticity can be as elusive as a mirage, Brandon lays bare the complexities of his double life post-coming out within the rough terrains of rap and gang culture. His candid narrative reveals the tensions between secrecy and self-expression, the pivotal moments of being outed, and the waves it sent crashing through his personal and professional life. As your host, Mr. Zach, I also peel back the layers of my own experiences with vulnerability, and the lessons learned in the aftermath of toxic relationships. Our exchange is a heartfelt reminder of the healing powers of genuine support and the courage it takes to live your truth, no matter the cost. Join us for a conversation that's as raw as it is real, as we tackle the pursuit of authenticity through life's most challenging trials.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to just the two of us. It is your favorite broadcast host, mr Zach, so get comfortable with me and let's talk about it. Hey, you guys, it's your boy, mr Zachary, on his one. Welcome to just the two of us. I call my boy. That's tick tock. He have a regular job on the side and he's all about. I am see him with Brandon Brandon hot day.

Speaker 2:

I'm doing good, how you doing.

Speaker 1:

I'm doing good man, like just have been a long day, don't be here now you know? Yes, you know that was up, so Let my audience know about you. Know where you from. I grow like, what's your background?

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, my name is Brandon bars from Detroit, michigan. Little bit about me. I grew up on each hour Monster running a little bit, was homeless for a little bit until we finally got steady. I, I Love sports. I found music at an early age. I found that to really be my outlet Once again. I grew up with only child, so music was something that I can feed into and make me feel better by myself. Yeah, that's just something like for now. We're getting some more.

Speaker 1:

So you said you grew up in a child. Can you like go in how you grew up as a any child? Was you with your father? Was you with your mother, like your mother, father, your grandparents?

Speaker 2:

My mom had me 42 oh 42. So when she had me my dad wasn't around. My dad was. It was kind of like off and on, like he was at my grandmother's house, which is on my dad's side. So when I go up with her I see him. He was like that's hyper or deal. He was never like really hands-on doing anything for real. I have an older sister, but she was grown by time I was here. You know she already had a kid, so she already had her her own life. So when I came to the picture I was with my grandparents. All my oldest siblings were really just gone. My brother was locked up. He got locked up at the age of 16. I have never seen him until he recently got out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so how was it your struggle for you in this world? Because your mom had you had a at a late age. So how did that? You know, growing up you know everybody a lot older than you probably grew up with your like what your nephew, your cousins.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, I Will. I will necessarily say I'm majority grew up by myself, I would say, because even when we bounced around a lot, we bounced around a lot and my cousins I was wanting to see them, like on holidays and stuff like that. But with having a mother at that age, it molded me. That's why I have a. Oh so I thought I was old soul because a lot of my siblings are older. But I also had to Deal with certain responsibilities at a young age as well.

Speaker 2:

Mike white, you say, when it comes to her health, wise, like having somebody having kids at that age, it can be. It can take a fake because it took a huge effect on me. I'll think here my mama from 13 to 48, like we're 13 to 28. Thank you, my mama, hand and feet, like because it was a plane where you know, other family members wanted to put her in the home and that's my baby. You feel me? I'm not about to. If I can step up and educate myself and make sure I take the classes to be able to take care of my mom, why would not do that?

Speaker 1:

If you a little bit background and some my honors, it's already know. So I go up baby on my mom's side so my dad, like what's your dad? My dad came in on my life so it was pretty rough growing up because I have to figure out how to be a man at a Early age and just see how my dad and we cool now we have a good relationship now. But I wish my dad had more time with me back then and teach me how to be a man. You know I got a rape at an early age. Um, I not just once, twice. Um, what else? I did some certain things that was not proud of um, yeah, I know I have.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I definitely have, and I'm gonna cut you off. But I definitely relate when you said you have to learn things on your own how to be a man. Like it's hard when your father, that father figure or that male figure not around, like I really used to feel like I don't need him in my life. But when you get to a certain age you realize that certain things you should have known then, that you just now learning now and I agree.

Speaker 1:

Now we are what he come from now, like he didn't have his father growing up so he didn't have the proper tools how to navigate to fatherhood, you know, and because sometimes it'd be a hard conversation with talking about my father, because I am a daddy's boy.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a mom, I'm a daddy's. I'm like I love my dad to death, to a spot. We always have this rain relationship. Like it be odd, it'd be like we always bickering like, well, you wasn't you, wasn't it. Like we go back and by understand he was our workaholic and we have to do, you know, to make these in for himself. But I don't give him any leeway, but I give him for what he had so far now by glad we had a good relationship. So you who, not having your father in life, how did that affect you growing up? Oh, no, he's like he was it physical there.

Speaker 2:

So it motivated me to become harder, like because I always, everywhere I was at, I was always the one people tried to pick on. So it's like I either had to be the prey or the predator, and I had to, like, become the predator. I had to become this aggressive person because I didn't have no other siblings that was gonna come coming back for me. I needed some reinforcements. I was the only person that was gonna be able to have my back my mom. She was a living nurse, so I will only see her on the weekends.

Speaker 2:

So, my you, throughout the week I'm getting myself up to school, making sure I get myself to school, sixth grade and shit. So it's like I have to mow myself, to be strong and be hard and not show any type of sensitive feeling at all, and that it takes a toll on me because now I'm at an age now I watch a movie, I fuck around the crap, okay, over the simplest shit, like I be like what the hell you know? So is it? It fucked me up emotionally, but it also I feel like it made me stronger, and it really made me strong. You feel me like mm-hmm, we're real late. It really made me strong, but it took a toll on me emotionally and it's something I'm still getting over, because I want to have that conversation with my dad. I want to learn why he wasn't there. Maybe it's a reason like you said, maybe he his father wasn't there, or something you know. Like I want to have a conversation like why wasn't you there?

Speaker 1:

I think when you have conversation this is no with any conversation you want to have anybody think you have to step to have an open mind. That's the first. You have to go away like. You cannot go in attacking because that gets in the sense mode and with me I'm a motion, I like pick up, I'm very much intelligent when coming out of people. You have to have that like the open mind but also get word out. It's down on how you feel, but also learn how they grow up and you kind of put the pieces together, as you know. But also it's all about accountability as well. You know it's not your fault that there was it there you like it's their fault. They too made me job, made you. You know they were supposed to be. But also give them grace. You have to give them grace because you know you are doubt. You know you. You speak into the inner child and I know in a child wants some answers. You know to break as back to as adults.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and sometimes I'd be like do I really want the answers? Because look how far I'm came.

Speaker 1:

You do.

Speaker 2:

Like yeah, I do, but it's just I don't know like that's why I'd be like I still give him grace because if he was in my life I probably wouldn't end up like this. I probably would have been worse off. Honestly, I feel like it. But then again I feel like certain things that I had to teach myself as a man. He could have been there just to teach me those simple things. Not even if he wasn't there financially, you could have just like, just showed me certain shit as a man, okay.

Speaker 1:

How's your mental health? How's your mental health?

Speaker 2:

My mental health is way much better now. I'm just to the point where now I'm like on a healing journey. I feel like sometimes I got to bless me with somebody, but then sometimes it'd be the devil trying to interfere and bring me back and I'd be trying to decide who this person really is, because every time I'm doing good, somebody pop up that I don't want to talk to nobody or nothing. You feel me and it just distracts me and sometimes I think it's a blessing and it ends up a lesson. So I'm just not focused on anybody, just doing what makes me happy and just no, just stand away from things that are bringing me down.

Speaker 1:

Real Okay, so one said previously you know music is your outlet. And how did you get into music and how did it? I met you as a person today, you know, feeling like music I was a how I knew I wanted to do music would be fifth grade.

Speaker 2:

It was your grade. It was a one at a time festival and it was right at the time Some GZ and a kind came up with this soul survivor song and everybody was auditioning for it. Me and my homeboy had made like a Christmas remix to it and we ended up getting cast into perform and we was in the auditorium and when I saw him came on and the lights flacker and everybody got to scream and stuff, it was like it was like something out of a movie, like it was like oh yeah. Like it was like oh yeah, I like this and people just kept complimenting performance and stuff and it was something I was totally opposed to doing. My homeboy would suggest that we do it. So every since then it was like oh yeah, this is something I want to do and it made me feel so good, like this was something I'm good at.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay. Oh, I was listening to some of your music. Now it is okay. Good, thank you, I appreciate it, even if you're like you're creating. It was good.

Speaker 2:

Appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

Appreciate it. So what does? What do I want to talk about? Because there's a lot of things I can talk about with you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, it's, it's.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we not. Yeah, carlos, that you be having on, take time.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we can, we can talk about, we can talk about whatever.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we can talk about it, we got to talk about it. So, growing out, you know you you openly get yeah and you was having a struggle with that. You know you've been DL, you know, like how did that journey like tell them about that journey, like that that's, that's all right there.

Speaker 2:

So Never, okay. Okay, first of all, I've never had a conversation. This for somebody sitting me down to be like this is gay, this is what you're supposed to do, which I was to do. I've never had that conversation, never. I never had the birds to the bees and nothing. Nobody ever told me what was gay and what was not was gay.

Speaker 2:

So by the time I knew what was gay, I already done a spearman and some shit. So you so in, it always was like I was always horny as a child. You couldn't always spearman my homeboys, but it was something that it was just the homeboys come over. It was never something like this was what I like. But until I got maybe older, actually got into a relationship with somebody and cause some feelings, it was like, okay, well, maybe I can do this and and that's when it's like the DL cycles really starting and that's when I really started experiment, like with my sexual reality, because before then it was just, you know, we just jacking off, jack each other, you know, stuff, stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

So once I got older, then it started getting a little bit more serious and stuff. But before I was like, okay, I was with, got my first relationship around, I would say 20. So for the end I wasn't even thinking about dudes. Okay, I still had a girlfriend at the time and actually I had a girlfriend when I got with the dude, and that's nothing. That's another story. It's crazy, yeah, because I was with her when I got with him but he ended up getting jealous because she was a stripper and she was to come to the crib bringing back some money and stuff and she was a happy counted up and we split it. He was to get jealous and all type of shit, yeah. But yeah, well, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

But I'm not right now.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, but yeah, that really um, yeah, but get back to being DL being around. Okay, my friends knew. My friends knew, but I wasn't like messing with dudes. It was like, um, I probably had a dude over or somebody that I was kicking it with in. My homies knew, like it's like you being in a hood and one of your friends bring somebody new around. It was like that, like my close people knew they don't really care about it, you know longest I wasn't extra with it, you feel me. And people knew, but it was like they didn't want other people to know. And that's what I started to realize Once other people started knowing, then it was a problem, because now they feel like they caught in the circle.

Speaker 1:

And problem. There was something circle. There is your friends.

Speaker 2:

And they wasn't really my friend. Okay, and that's when I finally came out. I lost, okay, well, real, for real. But, um, yeah, I was in the game. Um, I had to live two separate lives. Um, my close friends that I had, okay, well, two of them is still around, two of them is still around. They always stuck with me. Um, they knew, but the people that was in the game, they didn't know. I kept that shit separate, like I kept that shit like totally separate. I kept that shit like arms reached. I could not even come close to my personal life. We probably made a song or the studio or something like that, but uh, I really just kept that up.

Speaker 1:

I got some questions, it was Okay. Yes yes, can you talk about it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can talk about it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, what if you got to a gang?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so this will happen. So I stayed on this, this road called Seven Mile, and at the time I got a music group. Okay, so it's three different groups in this area. I stayed right in the middle. Okay, to the right, we got a group called CMH, cmh and YSC and I got my rap group at the time called Rackboys, and I'm cool with everybody, everybody is cool with each other, and they figure out. I got my own group, they got their own group and we end up having this meeting one day. So we end up clicking up together and that's how we end up getting involved. Now, okay, you can have some more questions, but that's how it started.

Speaker 1:

So how did your gang find out that you was gay?

Speaker 2:

Okay, see, and nobody ever found out. Nobody ever found out.

Speaker 1:

Well, so today.

Speaker 2:

Confronting me about it. Okay, because, mind you, I forgot I did end up getting exposed. I did end up getting exposed Because the first dude I was with we end up getting drunk at this hotel one night and end up taking some pictures and he ended up uploading it Because we was in a rap group at the time and it was on Facebook. It went crazy. It was like how do you go from this, like we are like you know how homeboys be in a music video and shit like that, to cut it up and shit? Yes, yes, that shit went crazy. That shit went crazy. And that right there is when, like, shit went down here, all the friends thought I had went gone, I had to revamp. You feel me? All the fans I had from me being in the closet. That's when I was 50 and said, fuck it, I'm coming out. You feel me fucking, I'm coming to fuck out. Yup.

Speaker 1:

And actually my fans. Right now I ain't a complete shot.

Speaker 2:

But by the end though. I was out the hood though, but see, I had moved out the hood by the end. But see, I had moved all the way to the suburbs by the end. But I'm still cool people from the hood. Nobody ever confronted me, though. Ain't nobody ever confronted me about this shit To this day Now she got the shit out of her skulls.

Speaker 1:

Move from the suburb to Kim out.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I was glad it was over there, then it wasn't in the hood. But then wait a minute, hold on. Somebody did try to expose me in the hood Because I had a friend. Okay, so mind you, hold on. I got a story time. So when I was standing in the hood, when I was standing in the hood, I had just a little yeah. Yeah, you used to come over, like when he was like he was from another hood, but he used to come over and we used to kick it or whatnot. And at this time the hood real hot.

Speaker 2:

Now my man's ended up hitting me up like a, b, I'm gonna need you to come into the Burger King because I stay in these projects right on Greenfield. That's like kind of down the street from Burger King. So if anything happened, majority of people will call me because I'm the quickest. So he's like if anything happened, I'm gonna need you to come up here. So I'll tell my little yeah, yeah, this situation, I'm like I'd rather you not come today, you feel me, just in case something happened. He like, no, I want to come anyway. So he ended up coming over. You feel me. We ended up kicking it and stuff. Then my man's ended up calling me to say I need a role. So I ended up going up there in my little yeah, yeah, wanted to come with me. So we ended up going up there by the end of trying to stop and shit, these niggas have machetes and shit. So, fuck all that shit nigga, they start chasing us with knives and shit. So we ended up going back to my motherfucking career. Now we ended up going back to my career. We talking about it, laughing about it.

Speaker 2:

One thing leads to another. We end up, you know, messing around. Now my homeboy my little, yeah, yeah, that came over. Now my homeboy that called me, the one that told me he needed me to come up to Burger King because some shit was going on he ended up coming back to my career and in the midst of he knocking on the door, he looked through the window and I guess he see me and my man's getting it on. Yeah, listen, wait, wait, wait. Now, mind you, I got this big ass window. Now for you to see some shit, you got to really be looking through it. So I'm thinking this my homeboy, you feel me Like. If you see anything like, you feel me, you could come to me, or you feel me? Just howl at me. He go around. Now, mind you, he is from the other side of the hood, across the street from Selma, like going southbound.

Speaker 2:

Now he ended up coming on my side of the hood telling the people that he know that I know that what he saw. So I said, okay, now I got to do some collateral damage, now I got to do some damage control. So I end up coming up with a scenario that the reason why he doing that shit because I want to let him record, I've always been in the studio man, always been a studio man, and that what kept me cool with each side of the motherfucking hood. So I ended up telling them that and they believe it. They ain't a born to detail. They know how my window is. And come to my homeboys we done slid through some bitches, through this bitch and ran them down, so they like for him to even see some shit through your window. He had to really have his face in that bitch. So why is you, as another dude, looking through another, another dude window? You want to get some you looking gay.

Speaker 1:

Now you sound gay. He had one to come to. That's all. Now everybody in the hood think he gay.

Speaker 2:

Now, mind you now. Now everybody in the hood think he gay. This motherfucker come back to that same window he saw and bust my window. Bust my motherfucking window.

Speaker 1:

He had one of that, sir. You could have give him that little y'all. Y'all ain't call it a day.

Speaker 2:

Mm-mm. We used to call it some dirty take Uh-uh. Nope, he was just cool, he was just like one of those people that if it was time to thump, you just call him. You feel me Like he a fight, but he dirty, no, you feel me.

Speaker 1:

No uh-uh. Let's get it, cause there's a comment you had saying what had come on in your videos. Alright, so you like twinks, right? Yeah, alright, cause I said like so you don't like thick dudes.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I've never been with a thick dude.

Speaker 1:

And I was like I don't know what I said to you and I think like, oh, so you like twink? Cause he is a twink, yeah, I mean you skinny. I mean I don't like you skinny. Now, those who are listening to this so, mr Brandy, it's packing. So from from here his stories and reading his comments and just watching his video, tick, tock, he packing. He said he'd be slinging and in his music he'd be, he'd be doing that too. He'd be seeing it. So is it, mr Brandon? You packing.

Speaker 2:

Uh, god took his time with me.

Speaker 1:

So you out here slaughtering bitches and niggas left the right.

Speaker 2:

No, not, no more, not, no more. I'm set, I'm saving myself. I'm at a point now where I really want some.

Speaker 1:

Look at my serious, you know okay, so you come out with the DL Chronicle. Does some stories be far as fuck?

Speaker 2:

I Wanted some. I want to some authentic and real. I wanted to do something authentic and real and I feel like Is it is authentic, and Israel and I don't know what really I don't know what the fuck. I can't remember what told me to start this shit, though I Don't know. I Really can't remember cuz that's my eye.

Speaker 1:

I was going through, you know you are your FIP page, you know I used to keep going and you up and it's the DL Chronicle. I was like, okay, I got time, let me listen, and I think I'm about the dude. Oh.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, okay, I think I remember I'm so. I think I remember exactly how I started. I started off doing story times and I was on a story time about how to do had did some had ghosted me or some shit like that, and people in people was all invested in stuff and I'm like you know, let me tell some other stories and stuff like that. I'm like shit, if I can be that vulnerable, I can tell some idea. Chronicle stories, no man, okay, let me just see how that should go.

Speaker 1:

So we don't want to hear what you're DL Chronicles on here.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, I Just gave you One of them with the dude, but the window out, ask, ask me a quick, like you got to ask me some stuff. But I have a lot of story. Okay you're gonna trigger something. I know it will.

Speaker 1:

The one I just talked about. The dude had usually for money. I thought I ride.

Speaker 2:

From money for a ride.

Speaker 1:

No, he had no car and I think I'm your life. I think that was that was your last relationship. Yeah, no.

Speaker 2:

No car. Did we go on a trip? Mm-hmm, okay, that wasn't it. That wasn't the L Condos. I could just a story time, but yeah, that was my last ex. I got him. I want to own anyone talk about him, because he he's currently still harassing me and that's part of my healing journey. I've been trying to avoid for him. But yeah, that's my small question. That's my small question. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to answer that, but, um, yeah, that's my small question. That's my small question.

Speaker 1:

Um, who goes to?

Speaker 2:

oh, that was, um, that was this dancer at the damn club, this dancer at the damn club, but he didn't end up really ghosting me. His motherfucking phone was fucked up with some shit like that. But yeah, that's it. That's really about that, but that was like years ago. A little bit of you, though.

Speaker 1:

So you say we're not gonna talk about the dude, but we're gonna talk about the relationship as a whole. Are you going deep inside of it? So how are you dealing with it? Like now, because you say you want to heal in journey and that's a part of your healing journey, he's keep on harassing you like how did it affect you now?

Speaker 2:

Now it's more of a Crap for help now. Now just look at it as a crap for help. We just want me to respond you feel me to his stuff. Man, I'm just now. I'm just Not focused on it at all. At first used to Used to irritate me because they sent thousands of emails. Comment on my tiktok. He's still. Comments on my YouTube. He still makes little statuses like.

Speaker 1:

You said what like on some soccer shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he was the same person that was. He popped. He hopped the fence I was on, takes out live and he hopped. My dad fits and pop up at my door, yeah. They get home like that look, I Don't know, I don't know, but I'm a person that I take accountable for some idea, but I don't do anything to the point that it makes them. I do some shit like that, like a real, but I know I did drop his clothes off, though.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry you going through that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's my like. Be quiet, roman. But yeah, I'm just learning myself and I don't like I'm really Learning myself more. I feel like that person was Wanted to see me good, wanted to see me do good, but not better, better than them that make a sense like they did, like that bare minimum of support. Never met a person that a support by that I like support you but not really support you is what we heard is like they do just enough for them to say that you Do not support, that. You can't you give them saying they do just enough for you to say that that so you can't say that you're not supporting them so what?

Speaker 1:

So what type of guy are Anybody you are looking for? What are you into?

Speaker 2:

Lately. I like dudes to watch anime. I don't know, I Don't know. I like dudes to watch anime.

Speaker 1:

I.

Speaker 2:

Like soft dudes. Like Like one. Like soft because, like I've been in the environment being hard all the time, I want somebody that I ain't got a word about. So try to test me like for real. Like we respect each other. We should even have to push each other points to get to that level.

Speaker 1:

Like we shouldn't even be aggressive unless we were in the mother-of-beer room, like so from, from when I'm standing at now, I'm learning how to Back myself off being a very so cuz he even tells a lot like you know, you and your girl out soccer, or like being soft, control the situation like I'm, like I Come always the dude that always be dominant and taking care of why I need to take care of my relationship when he and now Be as big they need now, like he is a different breed I'm talking about he's gonna be kind as he, so he care about feeling he listens. Um, you know that has to fight, whatever. But we be having a conversation as adults, you know. You know we wrong and I can be a hothead sometime. I can't be a lot Cuz I'm a person and I got like a lot of energy and sometimes he had to like yo, okay, you, you bring it down some, bring it down Like chill, like you can't give me off the rah rah.

Speaker 2:

That's good, that's good.

Speaker 1:

We have, definitely. I know I love him and I appreciate him. You will be listening. Um, so that, so you are the new healing journey. So what advice can you give your old self that you would have now that they back then?

Speaker 2:

I was saying don't be so hard on yourself. I feel like at times I had to really rush to grow up. I put a lot of pressure on myself. I say, yeah, don't be so hard on yourself.

Speaker 1:

So I want to be your flowers as we speak now. From hearing you grow up and to see you now. You are a cool person, not fucking cool, you are amazing.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1:

And I can see you with your heart on your side.

Speaker 2:

I used to be this person. I used to be the complete opposite.

Speaker 1:

I can see you doing things that make you happy and somehow I would appreciate it one day, like they are people like you that does not exist a lot and one day I hope to meet somebody who I appreciate you and you know and care about you and not the other person around you, you know, care about you individually and not the material things. I want you to keep doing what you got to do, because I know the world want to offer you a lot of things, especially in 2024. I'm saying I'ma speak it and I'm a firm believer when I talk to certain people and I get to keep doing you guys, what advice can you give me and my viewers and, by the way, viewers and listeners, please you out 30 way.

Speaker 2:

You said what.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you are.

Speaker 2:

I'm 30.

Speaker 1:

30? Yeah, you are 3 years older than me, so what advice can you give me and my listeners?

Speaker 2:

Don't take life for granted. Life for real, every moment and second, that you stand with somebody that you really care about. Don't take it for granted. For real, do not wait and hesitate to do what you really want to do, because time is the only thing that we cannot give back, because it's so much things that I wish I would have done, but I'm about to start doing them now. So do not take life for granted.

Speaker 1:

And I receive that, and all my listeners receive that too.

Speaker 2:

I fuck with you.

Speaker 1:

Give a little better, like you actually are mad, cool dude.

Speaker 2:

You are. I appreciate you for having me on here.

Speaker 1:

I want people like you to reach out to people who don't have a voice, who are in the predicament as you, that's now Don't know how to Never have a plan or have a voice throughout life. So that's the reason why I started my broadcast. Yeah, we laugh, we joke and that is serious, because life is all about having fun and enjoying it, even though life has its ups and downs. We gotta be grateful. We'll be at every moment Because you never know, we can leave here to the unamara and we're not happy at how we laugh. So I tell people like you at the time and just appreciate the stuff around you and I appreciate you coming on here Because you didn't have to come over here. You could tell me hell the fuck. No, I don't know you, I don't feel comfortable with you, but I thank you for just having me, just me having you.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate it being on here for real. I really do Really want to start, like I said, in the light. Like you say, for people like me that really don't Might not feel comfortable enough to come over, know how to Because there's so many people that still, to this day, I know in my hood that's OK Don't know how to come out, scared to come out.

Speaker 1:

I do and even though I have I'm not going to speak on him I have a couple of friends, so DL in this game Due to the situation, and I can completely understand. You know they're family members, are cool with me, but they are afraid to come out and I always want to know. You really don't know yourself until you come out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for real, for real, and that is the truth. That is the truth, because we like down this whole time, like the fuck I've been doing, like this whole time, ok.

Speaker 1:

All right, anything else you want to say before we? You said what. What people can find you at.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, you can find me on all platforms, at Brandon bars, b-r-a-n-d-o-n-b-a-r-z, that's on our streaming platforms Instagram, the real Brandon bars, tiktok, big Daddy bars, and be on a lookout. I'm about to have some visuals coming. This year. I'm about to really put a lot more focus into my music, so I'm trying to be looking for that. I want to try to do some more podcast appearances. Get my face out there. Also, I think I want to start doing like a little bit of acting.

Speaker 1:

So Word and also shout out to my broadcast, because we in 10 countries yes, ok, congratulations. Countries and we are hitting it and it's just the third season. I started shit like two years ago and we doing baby. But thank you so much. I'm very, very, very happy to have you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, it was an honor and we ain't going to be the last time you see me.

Speaker 1:

We not. I'm going to be in your comments to be like he didn't say that, to play, but no, I fuck with you. All right, thank you for tuning in, just the two of us, and I hope y'all enjoyed this episode. See y'all later. You don't tune out.

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Zachery Williams

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